我是个基督徒,我时时在想我能为主耶稣基督做什么呢? 于是我就当起博客了,写下我基督徒的生涯与感想。 i am a christian, i always asking myself, what can i do for Jesus? then i started become blogger, write down my story as a Christian.

Wednesday, September 26, 2007

快考试了

考试快到了,\因此很烦。
我是不介意我自己有没有温习,因为我本来就很相信自己的能力,和上帝帮助。
可是,由于我期中考时还考不错,有几科更加是最高分,所以人人都看我是敌人了。
我没想过要比较,因为比较的心事来自恶魔的,我只想做好自己要的而已。
现在这样,。。。。。。。。

满头痛的。 考的好,人人都要跟我竞争。考不好又对不起自己。

所以要怎样啦。。。。。。。。

算了,了,我尽我本份读完该读的,之后就靠主了。

在握内心深处,我当然是希望考的好啦。

我是那么的辛苦供自己读书,读不好,是我自己的损失阿。

至于人们想比较,就别让人知道我的分数就好了。

我很讨厌有些人会去看我的分数,真是的。。。。。。

我很敏感有个人会去把握拿高分得事公告全世界。
不要啦。。。。我只想安安静静,平平稳稳,的过我的大学生涯。毕业时拿个2nd upper degree 就可以了。

不要搞我啦。

一切都交托在主耶稣的手中。

阿门。

恋爱不结婚

有个男人--他写了封信息给我,
‘你可以给我一个机会好好的爱你吗
年龄不用想,只要我们开开心心就可以了,我真的对你有那个感觉’

这是某个小我四岁的男人,我该说他是男孩说的。
一年内,不止他,还有超过不懂该用什么来计算的男人,男孩追求我。
我的朋友就说为什么不要?
可是我,真的不想就谈个开开心心,什么都不管的爱情。

以前,我谈过几次很自私很自私的恋爱,也是想这个 小男孩这样想。
开心就好。
我不理会我们是否相配,配,不理他本身有太多事物都与我有矛盾。连父母,姐姐的劝也不听了。
当时,我不在乎他学历比我低,家世比我差,身材样貌都无所谓,有怀习惯,抽烟喝酒,懒惰都可以忍受。
就连他开始用我的钱,我也忍了。现在想起来,当时真傻阿。

爱情地区是又情喝水饱,但是,未来呢。。。。。。。。。
不可能说今天有感觉就在一起,明天呢,还有很长的日子阿。
我明白,或许我的前男友们,其他追求我的男性都觉得我太贪慕虚荣,可是,我在成为任何一个人的女友前,我都主张各付各的。成了女友后除了电话费可拍拖的开销,我可没吃多一分钱。分手了,还是尤我给分手费。费。
还逢年过节送礼。以表心意和礼数。礼数。

不是要说自己好好阿,阿,还是什么的,
我就是非常的不满现今社会太多的男女,把恋爱当作游戏,没有认真的看待。看待。

的确,的确,钱财是买不到爱情,
圣经也有写,谁用财富来换取爱情就会被人蔑视。

一段好的爱情当然长长久久,要结婚生小孩一辈子的事阿。而且,还是两个家庭的连结。结。你的家族和他的将会有合并也有交际。如果说不理会其他因素就硬是要结合,那么往后怎么办。。。。。。。。。?

男方不赚钱回家样妻小,女方拼命做生做死来养家糊口的家庭我不是没见过。
因为男方家族豪门,豪门,女方嫁过去了抬不起头的也大有人在。

这些不完美的婚姻都源自恋爱。
恋爱,在还没选定人时,时,为什么不现作考量。考量。很多很残忍,很现实的条件,条件,周围,环境因素都应该设入考量。


我就是想太多,太多,所以就趁爱情还没蒙芽就把她给杀了。了。

我是个在读住大学的小妞,读完了,很大可能还要出国。出国。
以后,以后,我都不打算长住KL.
我还有很多地方还没\去,去,还没\流浪全世界。。。。
UK,Us,Australia, Japan, ..China.

父母那方面,方面,我还未\尽孝道。孝道。
主耶稣的使命,我也为完成。成。

\恋爱游戏对我而言,太奢侈。奢侈。

我跟自己说,说,再谈恋爱,就是样结婚,结婚,成家立业。成家立业。\安定的时候了。了。

不是现在,要再过好多年阿。
虽然有时我很累,累,很想找个人陪,陪,找个人来爱我。
可是,这样只要一时满足的爱是太\自私了。了。

现在,现在,我宁愿每天一早醒来就把微笑把爱带给我身旁的每一个人。
这就是爱。爱。
让自己活在主 的爱中。中。 比起所有的,都幸福许多。

Wednesday, September 19, 2007

More Conflict

http://www.aliran.com/oldsite/monthly/2004b/9e.html

for more cases and conflict between articel 11 civil and syariah in Malaysia can refer to above website.
thankx.

CIVIL-SYARIAH CONFLICT

The Susie Teoh dilemma
Susie Teoh was 17 years and 8 months when she became Muslim. Her father Teoh Eng Huat, a Buddhist, could not locate her and he took the Jabatan Agama in Kelantan to court. He applied for a declaration that, as father and guardian to the infant, he had a right to decide her religion, education and upbringing and that her conversion to Islam was invalid. The case was covered by the Guardianship of Infants Act, 1961, a federal law of general application, Art. 11 (1) (freedom of religion), and Art. 12 (3), (4) (right to education) of the Federal Constitution. The High Court ruled that the father’s right to decide the religion and upbringing of the infant (under 18) is allowed “subject to the condition that it does not conflict with the principles of the infant’s choice of religion guaranteed to her under the Federal Constitution”. In other words, the infant has a right to choose her own religion if she does it on her own free will. Susie Teoh was not in court to testify if she had voluntarily become Muslim “as her whereabouts were unknown”. The Supreme Court overruled the decision of the High Court and held that “in all the circumstances and in the wider interests of the nation no infant shall have the automatic right to receive instruction relating to any other religion other than (her) own without the permission of the parent or guardian”.

The Supreme Court, however, did not proceed with the declarations sought by Teoh Eng Huat as these were “only of academic interest” as Susie Teoh had reached the age of majority by the time the case was heard in the Supreme Court in 1990.



The aftermath It might be noted that several states have passed provisions in state Islamic laws by this time providing for the Islamic age of conversion at baligh, the age of adulthood which is stipulated as 15 for boys and the age of the onset of menstruation for girls. Thus, there is a clear difference between the age of conversion under Islamic law and that under civil law (which is 18, the age of majority). In 1989, the Selangor state lawmakers passed an additional amendment to the Administration of Islamic Law Enactment (a state Islamic law) to provide that if an adult converts to Islam, any infant children become converted at the same moment.

The passage of this law in the state assembly was opposed by lawmakers from the Malaysian Chinese Association (MCA) and the Democratic Action Party (DAP). It, nevertheless, became law after securing the required majority. This provision was eventually ‘repealed’ by its non-inclusion in a future amendment to that state law after a public outcry. Eventually state Islamic laws on the conversions of infants were synchronized with the position under civil law. An infant below age 18 requires the permission of both parents and guardian in a conversion to Islam. This appears to be a sound reconciliation.


Chang Ah Mee case: landmark decision In Chang Ah Mee’s case, the father became Muslim without the knowledge of the mother. He converted Junior Staphie Khoo, the child to the marriage, without knowledge and consent of the infant’s mother on July 28, 1998. The mother obtained custody on Nov. 13, 1998 and sought a declaration that the conversion of the infant was void. To recap, Susie Teoh was not converted to Islam by her parent. She received religious instruction in Islam (not known whether voluntarily or by compulsion) without the knowledge and consent of her father. In Chang Ah Mee, the infant was converted to Islam by the father. The High Court in Chang Ah Mee disposed of the case by addressing two issues: (1) the jurisdiction of the High Court on the matter and (2) the status of the conversion. In disposing of the jurisdiction issue, the court said that the case involved an interpretation of a state law and a civil court has such a jurisdiction even if the state law is one concerning the administration of Islamic law. Although it was not mentioned specifically in the case, the court looked at the whole situation as one primarily involving the guardianship and custody rights of parents over infants. In this scenario, the relevant laws involve the interpretation of four sets of laws:
Art. 12 of the Constitution on right to education;

The Guardianship of Infants Ordinance (Sabah) as amended in 1999 (“AMLE Sabah”);
The Law Reform (Marriage and Divorce) Act, 1976 (“the Law Reform Act’); and
The Administration of Islamic Law Enactment 1992 (Sabah). Art.12 provides:

Rights in respect of education(
1) Without prejudice to the generality of Art. 8 (equality clause), there shall be no discrimination against any citizen on the grounds only of religion, race, descent or place of birth ...
(3) No person shall be required to receive instruction in or take part in any ceremony or act of worship of a religion other than his own.
(4) For the purposes of cl. (3) the religion of a person under the age of eighteen years shall be decided by his parent or guardian.

Although Art. 12 (3) mentions “parent or guardian” (singular), the court was not persuaded that Art. 12 intents that only one parent may determine the religion of an infant below 18 in Art. (4). This is because the “Constitution does not discriminate against the sexes….the term ‘parent’ in Art. 12 (4) must necessary mean both the father and the mother….To construe otherwise would mean depriving, for example, a mother of her right as a parent to choose the religion of the infant under Art. 12 (4), if the father alone decides on the religion to be followed by the infant”. The Guardianship of Infants Ordinance as amended gave both parents the same and equal right over the person and property of the infant. “Such a right is illusory unless it means that the husband and the wife must exercise them jointly, that is, it cannot be exercised by the one without the other save when the other has died”. Section 68 AMLE Sabah provides that “a person who is not Muslim may convert to Islam if he attains the age of baligh according to Islamic law and provided that if a person is below eighteen (18) years of age consent shall be obtained from the parents or his guardian”. To reiterate, this provision reconciles the position at both civil and Islamic law. A person who has reached the age of adulthood (baligh) under Islamic law (which may be less than 18) requires the consent of both parents or a guardian if that person has not reached 18 years of age. Section 69 AMLE Sabah spells out the formal requirements for a conversion, which includes the utterance of the affirmation of faith or shahadah made at the person’s free will. Having noted the positions of parents as guardian, the court said that the mother custodian has a right under section 89 (1) of the Law Reform (Marriage and Divorce) Act 1976 (referred to as “the Law Reform Act”) to “decide all questions relating to the upbringing and education of the child”. The court did not clarify if this right supersedes the right of the other parent. In my view, this point strengthens the constitutional argument that both parents have a right to determine the religion of the infant and that the person who has custody of the infant should not be side-stepped in all questions relating to the upbringing and education of the infant (especially in the case where guardianship reposes in another person, who is not a parent of the child). The court also considered the Qur’an (sura al-Baqarah: 256), which propounds that there shall be no compulsion in religion. Further, the infant a two-year old is not of the age of baligh to be able to utter the affirmation of faith. The conversion was therefore against AMLE Sabah as well and was therefore null and void. I think that this is a landmark decision. This is the first case after the Susie Teoh decision where the High Court had an opportunity to interpret the laws, both Islamic law (as legislated for the state of Sabah) and civil law, including the provision on fundamental liberties in Art. 12, in a case of conversion to Islam.


The Shamala cases The Chang Ah Mee case was not followed in Shamala.
A High Court decision is persuasive to another High Court, as both are courts of coordinate jurisdiction.
There were four Shamala hearings. This article refers to three hearings dated Sept. 11, 2003 (No. 1), April 13, 2004 (No.2) and July 20, 2004 (No.3) below. In Shamala (No. 2) decided on April 13, 2004, the High Court in Kuala Lumpur held that the civil court has no jurisdiction to hear the mother’s application for a declaration that the conversion of the infants to Islam without her consent was null and void.
The judge emphasized this point in Shamala (No. 3), decided on July 20, 2004 (unreported). He appeared to say that the court did not make any ruling on the conversion. There are, however, passages in both cases that appear to indicate that the court did not wish to disturb the change in status of the infants. Case No. 1: Syariah order not binding on non-Muslim wife Shamala (No. 1) decided on Sept. 11, 2003, was a hearing for several matters.


The mother sought committal proceedings against the father of the infants for a breach of the interim custody order of the High Court of April 17, 2003. The High Court had granted custody to the mother with access to the father. He failed to return the children to her on May 25, 2003. The mother also applied for declarations that she was not bound by any decisions, order or proceedings of the syariah court.


Shamala, the mother to the infants, married her husband under Hindu rites. The marriage was registered under the Law Reform Act. The husband became Muslim on Nov. 19, 2002 and he converted the infant children on Nov. 25, 2002 without the mother’s knowledge and consent. The parties were not divorced. The muallaf (convert) father had, without the knowledge of his wife and the High Court, obtained a custody order in the syariah court on Jan. 30, 2003. The High Court ruled that the custody order issued by the syariah court “did not change the interim civil court order” and the syariah court order “is not binding on the plaintiff wife who is non-Muslim”.


The interim custody order of the High Court and proceedings were binding on the Muslim husband as matters arising out of the Hindu marriage registered under the Law Reform Act. As his Hindu wife did not file for divorce, she remains “his unconverted wife” under this law.

The committal proceedings apply to the husband. Case No. 2: No jurisdiction to decide In Shamala (No. 2), decided on April 13, 2004, the custodian-mother sought a declaration that the conversion of the infants was void. She relied on Art. 12 (4) of the Constitution, the Guardianship of Infants Act, 1961, which gives equality of parental rights and section 95 (b) of the Administration of Islamic Law (Federal Territories) Act, 1993 (hereinafter referred to as “AMLE FT”). The Guardianship of Infants Act, 1961 on equality of parental rights is similar to the Guardianship of Infants Ordinance (Sabah) referred to in Chang Ah Mee’s case. AMLE FT and AMLE Sabah differ. AMLE FT uses the words “parent or guardian” and not “both parents or a guardian” as in AMLE Sabah. The court ruled that only the consent of one parent is required in the conversion to Islam of a person below 18 under AMLE FT. It held that this is also consistent with Art. 12 (4) which provides for the words, “parent or guardian”. In my view there are certain weaknesses in these reasons. Art. 12 did begin with the words, “Without prejudice to the generality of Article 8, there shall be no discrimination against any citizen on grounds only of religion..” Art. 8 is the provision on equality before the law. The court did not appear to read this as an equality provision of the rights of parents. It ruled that “parent” under Art. 12 (4) means the father.



The equality of parental rights provision under the Guardianship of Infants Act, 1961 was held inapplicable to the Muslim father. After holding the 1961 Act as inapplicable, the court applied the Susie Teoh reasoning that the father as guardian had a right to decide the religion of the infant. This is curious as Susie Teoh’s case relied on the 1961 Act rather than Art. 12 (4). The court also considered the fatwa (legal opinion) of the Mufti of the Federal Territory as persuasive on the facts.


The Mufti was of the opinion that the Muslim father is entitled to unilaterally convert the infants to Islam without the consent of the mother. The fatwa did not appear to cite any authoritative fiqh (opinions of jurists based on Qur’an and Sunnah of the Prophet) arguments used by the Mufti. We thus do not know the fiqh references relied upon to support the opinion. It will be noted that there is nothing in AMLE FT, passed by the legislature, that incorporates the principle enunciated in the Mufti’s fatwa. As a general rule, the codification of fiqh principles in state law or Islamic law in the Federal Territories indicate the legislature’s preferences or selection of fiqh opinions to become positive law.


If we refer to the Selangor state law in 1989 law on ‘automatic conversion of infants’ upon the conversion of a parent to Islam,
that law purport to use a hadith (reported sayings of the Prophet) as its basis. That hadith is not a well-established hadith in Islamic jurisprudence. In any case there is a clear and overriding Qur’anic injunction in sura al-Baqarah, verse 256, which states that there is no compulsion in religion. I did not read in the court’s judgment if these arguments were raised in court. After these exertions in several pages, the court concluded that it had no power or jurisdiction under Art. 121 (1A) of the Constitution to decide on the conversion of the infants. According to the court, Art. 121 (1A) ousts the civil jurisdiction over the infants who are now Muslims and the temporary certificates of their conversion are conclusive. In my view, this is a questionable application of the case law on Art. 121 (1A).



The cases cited on Art. 121 (1A) to support the proposition of ouster are cases of Muslim converts out of Islam. The decisions thus far concluded that until the state syariah court rules on the conversion out of Islam, the party concerned was still a Muslim. In other words, those cases cited are arguably limited to situations of conversions out of Islam. Shamala’s prayer relates to the conversion into Islam. In any case, I have my personal doubts if Art. 121 (1A) is meant to be used in this way at all.


This article does not include my arguments on this. Case No. 3: Mixed Signals Shamala (No. 3) decided on July 20, 2004 (not yet reported) was an application inter alia for custody, care and control of the infants. The court awarded custody to the mother with access to the father. The court held the “right of religious practice of the two infant children shall be exercised equally by both parents” as laid out in the Guardianship of Infants Act 1961 (despite ruling in Shamala (No.2) that the Act cannot apply to the Muslim father then). It also held that the law applicable to the infants at the time of their conversion is the civil law.

This clear statement appears incongruous to the court’s position in Shamala (No. 2), where it refused to make any decision on the conversion on ground that it had no jurisdiction. In Shamala (No. 3) the court even ruled that the infants were still Hindus “at the time of conversion” and the father should have consulted the mother before converting the infants. Despite this, it cautioned the Hindu mother from influencing the infants’ religious belief “by teaching them her articles of faith or by making them eat pork” as the court “cannot run away from the fact that the two infant children are now muallaf” and that “they have been issued with temporary certificates of Akuan Sementara Pengislaman ”.




These last sentences imply a preponderance on the part of the judge to accept the conversion of the infants to Islam despite his ruling in Shamala (No. 2) that it cannot decide on the change in status for lack of jurisdiction. The judgment did not cite section 89 (1) of the Law Reform Act, which gives parent-custodian of the civil marriage (which on the facts still subsist) the right to “decide all questions relating to the upbringing and education of the child”, when he cautioned the mother as above. Even without a meticulous legal critique of the reasons for the decision, one can see the problems in the Shamala reasoning.




Both Chang Ah Mee and the Shamala (No. 2 and 3) cases were decided by the High Court. Both cases had to decide on the status of the conversion of infants and custody. In my view, the Chang Ah Mee case was a better reasoned case. At the moment we have two cases of the High Court. Both are persuasive. Another High Court may decide differently or opt for either the Chang Ah Mee decision or the Shamala (no. 2) decision in a case on infant conversion to Islam.

Tuesday, September 18, 2007

Freedom of Religion

======================================================================================================================================================================================= The Coalition Called Article 11:
Myths and Facts What is Article 11 in the Federal Constitution?
It guarantees the freedom of religion. Article 11 reads as follows: ?
1. Freedom of religion.
(1) Every person has the right to profess and practise his religion and, subject to Clause (4), to propagate it.
(2) No person shall be compelled to pay any tax the proceeds of which are specially allocated in whole or in part for the purposes of a religion other than his own.
(3) Every religious group has the right -
(a) to manage its own religious affairs;
(b) to establish and maintain institutions for religious or charitable purposes; and
(c) to acquire and own property and hold and administer it in accordance with law.
(4) State law and in respect of the Federal Territories of Kuala Lumpur, Labuan and Putrajaya, federal law may control or restrict the propagation of any religious doctrine or belief among persons professing the religion of Islam.
(5) This Article does not authorise any act contrary to any general law relating to public order, public health or morality.

?What is the Article 11 coalition?

Article 11 is the name of a coalition of civil society groups from diverse backgrounds and interests. Why was the coalition formed? It was formed in May 2004 in response to cases that highlighted the problems faced by some Malaysians, which involve the interpretation of some provisions of the Federal Constitution.

Two examples are: Shamala was a Hindu mother whose husband converted to Islam. He converted their two infant children to Islam without her knowledge or consent. The civil High Court refused to give effect to Shamala's rights as a parent of the child, and ordered her to raise her children as Muslims and not expose them to her own Hindu faith. It said that since the children are now Muslims, the Syariah Court is the only qualified forum to determine their religious status, even though the judge acknowledged that the Syariah Court has no jurisdiction to hear Shamala's case since she is not a Muslim. As a result, Shamala did not have any avenue to seek relief. Moorthy, the Malaysian hero who climbed Mount Everest, died in December 2005. The Islamic religious authorities obtained a Syariah Court order, in his widow Kaliammal's absence, declaring him a Muslim when he died. Kaliammal tried to have her deceased husband declared a Hindu at the time of his death, but the civil courts refused to hear her case. She was therefore left with no remedy and no access to justice. What is the mission of the coalition? Article 11's mission is to ensure a Malaysia that: upholds the supremacy of the Federal Constitution; protects every person equally, regardless of religion, race, descent, place of birth or gender; and is firmly established in, and upholds, the rule of law.

What does Article 11 hope to achieve?

We aim to promote awareness towards, advocate for and contribute to achieving a Malaysia where all Malaysians in our daily lives: affirm the Federal Constitution as the supreme law of the land; strive to build national unity; affirm the right of every person to full and adequate access to justice; recognise the need for a judiciary that is impartial, independent, and an equal arm of the government; recognise that the Federal Constitution embodies an agreement among the various communities; respect the Constitutional guarantees of equal protection for every person in a multi-racial, multi-religious Malaysia; seek to protect fundamental liberties for all; respect the freedom of thought, conscience, belief and religion of every person; and ensure that Malaysia does not become a theocratic state.

What activities has the coalition engaged in thus far?

Open letter In June 2006, Article 11 handed over to the Prime Minister an open letter entitled eaffirming the supremacy of the Federal Constitution? bearing approximately 20,000 signatures. The letter calls upon the government/judiciary: to uphold the supremacy of the Federal Constitution; to ensure governance in accordance with the Federal Constitution and premised on the universal values of all Malaysian peoples; to reaffirm that Malaysia shall not become a theocratic state; and to recognise the proper position of the judiciary within the Constitutional framework, as an independent and equal arm of Government.

See http://www.petitiononline.com/constsup/petition.html for the open letter.

The coalition has repeatedly asked to meet the Prime Minister to discuss the open letter and other issues of concern, but no reply has yet been received. Public forums Since 2004, Article 11 has been involved in organising five public forums that have focused primarily on the rights that the Federal Constitution, as the supreme law of Malaysia, guarantees to all persons living in Malaysia. The forums also highlighted the plight of various individuals who are unable to have access to justice. Unfortunately, two of those forums were disrupted by protests organised by a group calling itself Badan Anti IFC (BADAI), which incorrectly accused Article 11 of attempting to revive the Interfaith Commission (IFC) and of insulting Syariah law and Islam. Although a Minister had called the actions of the mob stuupid?

(see http://www.malaysiakini.com/news/51104),
and in spite of the increasing public support for the forums, the Government nevertheless went ahead and called for a halt to further forums on interfaith issues. Court and media advocacy Coalition members have represented persons who require assistance to pursue legal remedies. We have also appointed lawyers to hold a watching brief in court cases relating to lack of access to justice and freedom of religion. As part of the coalition's media advocacy work, members have granted interviews and released press statements and letters to press editors. Since the Government's gag order, Article 11 forums have been halted, and its statements are no longer carried by the press. On the other hand, groups opposing Article 11 continue to have access to the media and various other machineries to perpetuate disinformation about the coalition. Public education Article 11 has conducted briefings for groups and individuals who want to know more about their rights under the Constitution and about the coalition. Was it a mistake for Article 11 to discuss highly charged and sensitive?

issues in a public forum setting?
No. The public forums were closed-door sessions held in a regulated indoor setting, and all attendees were required to register. The forums featured activists, academics, lawyers and politicians as speakers, who discussed the Federal Constitution and related matters. The forums themselves proceeded smoothly, and nothing untoward happened during the meetings that caused any problem. The only disruptions originated from outside the forums, caused by persons unwilling to engage in rational dialogue and unwilling to allow others to exercise their freedom of expression. The issues may be sensitive?but they were always handled in a mature, professional and rational manner. Moreover, discussing sensitive?issues in an open and responsible manner is in fact the way to foster mutual understanding and true harmony. Avoiding discussion because an issue is sensitive?

will perpetuate its sensitivity and enhance the prejudices that will exist and grow among respective groups or communities because opportunities for dialogue are absent. What does Article 11 plan to do, in light of the protests against the forums?
We cannot be united if we do not talk to one another about what is troubling us. Suppression of debate will not resolve problematic issues nor cause them to fade away. It is important that we discuss and explore different viewpoints to facilitate solutions to the issues that jeopardise our national unity. Article 11 hopes to engage in rational dialogues with all concerned to clarify the misconceptions about the coalition, and to continue with its public education activities. Article 11 also hopes to meet the Prime Minister and other decision-makers to discuss issues of concern. Does Article 11 aim to establish the IFC? This is not one of Article 11's objectives, although some of the individuals and groups that had participated in the IFC initiative are also involved in Article 11. The IFC was intended to be a statutory body with a conciliatory function to promote the national unity of the people of multiple faiths in Malaysia. Despite the misinformation spread by irresponsible persons, the proposed IFC was not intended to have adjudicatory functions. Article 11 is a separate initiative. There is no discussion about the IFC in Article 11's public forums or other activities. Does Article 11 oppose the position of Islam in Malaysia? No. Article 11 respects Article 3(1) of the Federal Constitution, which states that islam is the religion of the Federation; but other religions may be practised in peace and harmony in any part of the Federation.?We also uphold Article 4(1), which provides that the Federal Constitution is the supreme law of Malaysia. Does Article 11 and its activities interfere with, or insult, Islam? No. None of the forum speakers or Article 11 coalition members questions the application of Syariah law to Muslims in the area of their personal and family law. The coalition, however, is concerned about the areas of conflict between Syariah law and civil law, and their negative impact on the rights of all individuals. Does Article 11 aim to reduce the power of the Sultans and religious authorities? No. Article 11 has the utmost respect for the Sultans as constitutional monarchs, and for the religious authorities who are subject to the Federal Constitution and are bound to uphold the rule of law. Does Article 11 aim to reduce the status of Syariah Court? No. What we advocate has been the position in Malaysia since independence and will not reduce the Syariah Court's scope within the Federal Constitution's framework. However, in any case where one party to a dispute does not profess Islam, or where the State Legislature has not expressly legislated on the subject matter of the dispute, then the correct position should be that the civil courts must be the ultimate decision-maker. If all parties to a dispute profess Islam, and the subject matter of the dispute is one of purely Islamic personal law and which has been legislated upon by the State Legislature, then the civil courts can rightly decline to interfere with a dispute before the Syariah Court. The current situation is problematic because individuals who do not profess Islam are being nevertheless told to go to the Syariah Court for redress, i.e. to go to a court to whose jurisdiction they are not subject. What is Article 11's stand on apostasy?

The coalition believes that the clear provision in Article 11(1) of the Constitution, that every person has the right to freely profess and practise ?his religion? must be fully respected. We do not encourage Muslims to renounce Islam, and we acknowledge that Article 11(4) restricts the propagation of any religious doctrine or belief among Muslims. Laws can be put in place to ensure that persons who convert out of their religion do not evade any lawful obligations to their families and communities. It is not suggested that such laws would prevent, punish or deter the conversion itself, but such laws must ensure that conversion does not provide an escape route from obligations already incurred. Is Article 11 seeking a repeal of Article 121(1A) of the Constitution? No. Article 121(1A) states: the [civil High Courts] shall have no jurisdiction in respect of any matter within the jurisdiction of the Syariah courts.?This just means that if a matter is properly and exclusively within the Syariah Courts' jurisdiction, the civil High Courts will not exercise jurisdiction over it. This proper interpretation does not take away anything from the Syariah Courts' proper jurisdiction. The jurisdictional conflict that has arisen is not due to the written law but to a distorted reading of Article 121(1A).


======================================================================================================================================================================================= Background to the formation of Article 11 In April 2004,

the civil High Court in Kuala Lumpur granted custody of 2 young boys aged 2 and 4 years to their Hindu mother. The judge imposed one condition - she was not to expose her sons to her Hindu faith. The 2 boys were previously, without her knowledge or consent, converted to Islam by her estranged husband, himself a recent convert to Islam. The same court had earlier dismissed an application by the Hindu mother for a declaration that the conversion of the 2 young children to Islam violated her parental right to co-determine the religious upbringing of the children. The reasoning of the court was that it had no jurisdiction, as the children were now Muslim and the correctness or otherwise of their conversion was a matter for the Syariah Court. Shamala's case brought home the point that the constitutional role of the civil High Court as the protector of the rights of the ordinary citizen was fast becoming illusory. The implications of this case, however, became the rallying force that drew together a small number of concerned NGOs and members of civil society. This group noted that besides Sharmala's case, there were other cases that had impacted the right of belief and the right to practise one's belief as guaranteed under Article 11 of the Federal Constitution. By May 2004, Shamala's case had given life to a coalition of NGOs, which has come to be known as Article 11.

above is articel is from the www.article11..

Monday, September 17, 2007

My assignment

thursday i have to pass up my Constitution law assignment.
the title is freedom of religion in Malaysia based on artcle 11 in Federal Constitution Act.

I am quite happy to do this assignment.
because i've million thousand words to say.

Freedom, is this call freedom???
maybe it's freedom, with term and condition.

Many other news can refer to ---

http://exmuslim.com/news.htm

Freedom Of Religion?

Christian who married ex-Muslim detained WND ^ September 24, 2003 staff
Posted on 09/24/2003 11:07:42 AM PDT by Nachum
An Egyptian Christian who married a Muslim convert to Christianity was pulled off an international flight this afternoon in Cairo, Egypt, and is being held by Egyptian secret police.
Bolis Rezek-Allah had an immigrant visa to Canada, according to the U.S.- based monitor Voice of the Martyrs, or VOM.
His wife, Enas Badawi, also is sought by police but has not been apprehended, VOM said.
Egypt bars Christian men from marrying Muslim women. The government, refusing to recognize Badawi's conversion, still recognizes her as a Muslim.
"It is interesting that the Egyptian government has no problem with Muslim men marrying Christian women," said VOM spokesman Todd Nettleton in a statement. "But they won't recognize the right of Christian men to marry Muslim women."
Nettleton noted the Egyptian government claims to give its citizens religious freedom.
"There is complete freedom for Christians if they want to convert to Islam, but no freedom for Muslims to choose to follow Christ," he said

Fasting...

Now is Muslims' fasting month.
but i know many muslims did not fasting.
just look around me, my ex malay housemates. They do acting like thy're fasting, but in fact...they eat twice than usual.

Chinese have Hungry Ghost Festival, is this is Malay's Hungry Ghost Festival?

emm.. no answer..

I just know that, in this month , my campus only left one Indian cafe open, and i forced to fasting like them too.
BAd!!!

And , if i thristy, i have to hide and drink my water like it's sinful to do so.

Hello. i am chines, and christian, not muslim. !!!!

Sigh...

new pics



1st is---my hair dyes with 4 coulours.
2nd is i take pic in my bathroom, (i 'm not naked)
and i think this 2 pic quite nice, so i put it here.

Tuesday, September 11, 2007

We can Judge people?

This is what the hostess of the VMAs said after Britney’s performance; it is reportedly the reason why Britney was so shaky during her performance:
“This is so exciting, wasn’t that incredible? Miss Britney Spears everyone. She is amazing, I mean she is 25 years old and has already accomplished everything she is going to accomplish in her life. It’s mind blowing, and she’s so grown up. She’s a mother, you know it’s crazy to think that just a few years ago on this very show she was this like sweet innocent little girl in slutty clothes riding around with a python. Thats not nice calling Madonna a python. But have you seen Britney’s kids? Oh my god. They are the most adorable mistakes you have ever seen. They are so cute. There as cute as the hairless vagina they came out of. “
What a bitch
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I just want to say:

WHEN WE JUDGE SOMEONE, WE ACTUALLY JUDGE OURSELF.


Briteny she have been longtimes not perfome,and the nite actually she did it well. Can u do half like what she done?
cannot!!!
She's Britney Spears, she 's born to be star.

Thursday, September 6, 2007

我刚刚看了本好好看的书----欲女
在中国网挖到的。
不错,看到快流泪了。


这几天不知是不是老毛病发作了,满想找个男友。
不过我是很确定我不要性,有爱不能有性。
性在我看来是很神圣的,若我们在污辱了他,那么爱情就不久了。

我也知道这年头要找个不用做sex 的男人士很难的,我重申做love和做sex是不同的。
做爱是真心相爱,有了名正言顺后,不用担心怀孕阿,用不用保险套阿之后就可以开开心心的做。做。
而后者是用男女朋友之名,认识不久就扑上床,。。。。。。。。。
我阿,
i cannot agree with this kind of relationship.
我是否太老头了,或是啊婆吧。。。。。。。。。。


我要我的男友尊敬我就好了。了。如果一个男人尊敬你,他就不会硬要求\上床了,了,他以为你是狗吗?


May GOD BLESS .
女人要自爱阿。